Legislature(1995 - 1996)

01/30/1996 08:00 AM House STA

Audio Topic
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
txt
 HJR 52 - CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS FOR 12TH CIRCUIT                          
                                                                               
 The first order of business to come before the House State Affairs            
 Committee was HJR 52.                                                         
                                                                               
 CHAIR JEANNETTE JAMES called on Representative Brian Porter,                  
 sponsor of HJR 52.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 0088                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER said HJR 52 was a resolution that would           
 put Alaska on record with the United States Congress which supports           
 splitting the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit into two                 
 circuits.  He referred the committee members to the map in the bill           
 file titled "The Thirteen Federal Judicial Circuits."  He explained           
 at the federal level the district court was akin to Alaska's                  
 superior court.  He also explained there were two levels of appeal            
 in the federal system - the circuit court and the Supreme Court.              
 He further explained the circuit courts were established decades              
 ago based on population.  The population had increased, and as far            
 back as 1973 a federal commission recommended splitting the Court             
 of Appeals for the Fifth and Ninth Circuits.  Consequently, the               
 Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit was split creating the Court           
 of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.  The commission recommended              
 administrative changes for the Court of Appeals for the Ninth                 
 Circuit which he alleged were not working.  He further explained in           
 the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit there were 27 judges, 17           
 judges in the Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, and as few as           
 6 judges in the Court of Appeals for the First Circuit.  The judges           
 in the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit were divided into               
 panels, he explained, hearing cases by specialty.  However, this              
 created inconsistent decisions on the same points of law.                     
 Consequently, it was very expensive and difficult to practice law             
 in Alaska.  The five states that comprised the proposed Court of              
 Appeals for the Twelfth Circuit were Alaska, Washington, Oregon,              
 Idaho, and Montana.  In conclusion he announced all five attorneys            
 general from the states supported the notion.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 0470                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES announced the presence of Representatives Ogan and                
 Robinson.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 0488                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CAREN ROBINSON asked the status of the corresponding           
 legislation in Congress.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 0509                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER said HJR 52 supported S.956.  S.956 divided             
 the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit creating the Court of              
 Appeals for the Twelfth Circuit.  He stated, California, Arizona,             
 Hawaii, Nevada, the Mariana Islands, and Guam would remain in the             
 Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 0562                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON asked how the circuit judges would be                 
 divided and if the division would be dictated by legislation.                 
                                                                               
 Number 0576                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER responded it would be decided based on case             
 load.  He stated it was best if they split the court for groups of            
 judges instead of all of them.  He cited the 27 judges in the Court           
 of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit lived in the Los Angeles area.  He           
 alluded no matter where the judges originally came from, after                
 living in Los Angeles they became "Californians."  He further                 
 asserted it was affecting the laws.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 0635                                                                   
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON asked if the judges would reside in one of            
 the states that comprised the proposed Court of Appeals for the               
 Twelfth Circuit.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 0640                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER replied the state of Washington would                   
 probably be the seat for the proposed Court of Appeals for the                
 Twelfth Circuit was a lot closer than California.                             
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON alleged judges residing in Washington would           
 have a better understanding of Alaska.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 0673                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ED WILLIS asked if the judges had to live in a                 
 particular district to be appointed.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 0684                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER replied they looked at applicants from the              
 general area and circuit.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 0706                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE WILLIS asked if an Alaskan had ever been appointed             
 to a seat in the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.                      
                                                                               
 Number 0708                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER said he did not know, but Charlie Cole,                 
 Attorney at Law, would be able to answer the question.  He also               
 announced Jim Baldwin, Assistant Attorney General, was here in                
 place of Bruce Botelho, Attorney General to testify on HJR 52.                
                                                                               
 Number 0744                                                                   
                                                                               
 JIM BALDWIN, Assistant Attorney General, Government Affairs                   
 Section, Civil Division, Government Affairs Section, Department of            
 Law, said the Attorney General wanted to be here himself but was              
 detained in Seattle.  He stated the Department of Law supported HJR
 52.  Mr. Baldwin alleged a locally oriented court of appeals would            
 benefit Alaska.  He said it was important the appellate courts                
 reflected the socioeconomic attitudes of the different regions.               
 The attitudes, he stated, shaped the development of laws.  He                 
 further said the attention of the Court of Appeals for the Ninth              
 Circuit focused on the more populace western states and needed to             
 be broken into a smaller unit to reflect the case load.  He cited             
 22 percent of the cases now pending before the Court of Appeals for           
 the Ninth Circuit were from Alaska, California, Washington, Oregon            
 and Montana.  In conclusion, he reiterated, the department                    
 supported HJR 52 and would support the committee in any way                   
 possible.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 0935                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHARLES E. COLE, Attorney at Law, Law Offices of Charles E. Cole,             
 said he supported the geographic dismantle proposed in HJR 52 of              
 the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.  He referred to his               
 written statement to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee and asked            
 it be part of the record.  He further stated the Court of Appeals             
 for the Ninth Circuit was the largest district and expanded from              
 Tucson to Point Barrow.  He asserted there was no particular reason           
 why Congress could not split the Court of Appeals for the Ninth               
 Circuit based on geography alone as it had done so before in the              
 past.  He further stated the decisions from California, for                   
 example, dealing with Alaska and the northwest were interpreted in            
 a bizarre fashion.  He alleged there was not a subjective "pulse"             
 of the various considerations of the statutes.  He cited the                  
 Kenaitze panel referenced The Milepost to define the term "rural."        
 He said it was defined as, "the vast areas of the U.S. where                  
 agriculture and ranching predominate."  He stated this definition             
 did not reflect to Alaska except maybe for the area near Palmer.              
 He also cited the Totemoff decision whereby the Alaska court                
 reached the opposite opinion.  Mr. Cole said he was not criticizing           
 the results of the decisions, but rather the judicial                         
 craftsmanship.  In conclusion, he stated, the judges in the Court             
 of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit lacked a collegiality.  He also              
 mentioned Alaskan Robert Boochever who served on the Court of                 
 Appeals for the Ninth Circuit did not support HJR 52.                         
                                                                               
 Number 1370                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN asked how many cases resided and were                
 resolved at the court of appeals level, or was it just an avenue to           
 the Supreme Court.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 1390                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. COLE replied it was the final repository for most decisions and           
 rarely did cases go to the Supreme Court.  He, therefore, alleged             
 the final authority resided with the Court of Appeals for the Ninth           
 Circuit.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1440                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN IVAN referred to previous testimony regarding             
 the definition of "rural" by the Court of Appeals for the Ninth               
 Circuit, and asked what rural Native Alaskans could expect if HJR
 52 was passed.                                                                
                                                                               
 Number 1488                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. COLE replied the rural constituencies could expect decisions              
 emanated from a greater familiarity of issues such as subsistence             
 compared to decisions emanated from judges residing in Los Angeles.           
                                                                               
 Number 1560                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON asked Mr. Cole if he knew where S.956 was             
 in the legislative process.  She also asked if there was a way to             
 be sure judges appointed to the proposed Court of Appeals for the             
 Twelfth Circuit would understand Alaska.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 1580                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. COLE replied he did not know where S.956 was in the process.              
 He also suggest Arizona should shift to the same circuit district             
 as California.  Mr. Cole further replied the appointment of the               
 judges were left to the Alaskan Congressional delegates as they               
 were appointed at the federal level.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 1640                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER stated S.956 just passed out of the U.S.                
 Senate Judiciary Committee.  He further announced the population in           
 the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit was 45 million, and                
 suggested by population alone the argument was strong enough to               
 create a new one.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 1680                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN moved that HJR 52 move from the committee with           
 zero fiscal note and individual recommendations.  Hearing no                  
 objection, HJR 52 was moved out of the House State Affairs                    
 Committee.                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects